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Boogie Man
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:38 am    Post subject: Knife defense Reply with quote

It is difficult to disarm an opponent of a knife despite a common belief
to the contrary. A knife is a light and dangerous weapon which can be
wielded rapidly and in successive strikes. Consequently, the essence of
this action is to avoid close contact with the enemy. The action described
below has been tested and proven successful under various circumstances.

You are facing an opponent armed with a knife.

1. Twist your body to the left or to the right, bending in the same
direction. Shift your body weight to one leg, the other bent as high as
possible, ready to deliver a kick.

2. Drive your bent leg into opponent's knee with all the force you can
command. This should succeed in breaking your enemy's leg. The least this action will do is to knock your opponent to the ground, thus granting you an opportunity to proceed to other holds.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ever though about just getting the hell out of there?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the advice sounds good, but described technique requires a lot time of training - indeed you will fail without mastering this at seminars
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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the advice sounds good, but described technique requires a lot time of training - indeed you will fail without mastering this at seminars


As a student of kempo, i would agree with this. much time and thought must be put into such defences or they will result in failure

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Karl Tanswell's S.T.A.B. program.
Jerry Wetzel's RedZone program.
Read Darren Laur's free article on defence against knives on his website, or on any of the thousands of places he has posted it online. (Google his name.)

Most of the other stuff you will see or hear about defence against knives is baloney.

That's all you need to know.

You're welcome.
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What if you already pinned against the wall? Or you have your child with you? There is no rock solid solution to any knife encounter.

Remember this, a knife is just a tool! Without the one using it, its useless. Focus on elimiating the attacker, the knife will then not even be a factor. Most of the time knives are used to threaten, using the mentality of the victim to cave in and submit.

Also, most people have an internal revulsion to actually stabbing someone. If the attacker does decide to use the knife, i would bet it would be slashing first. You can usually take a slah or two. Stabs have a higher chance of being lethal.

Your best bet is to run, second would be to eliminate him, and the tool will be useless.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pull out a gun
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are many knife defense techniques i am familier with. But through instructing i learned that the gun is easier to disarm and avoid from closer distance than a knife. I always use what I consider the safest method - The front kick, and then i just grab w/e i can lay my hands on: Chair, stick, chain, table, bottle or abything that is longer than the knife or that you can throw.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xplosive wrote:
There are many knife defense techniques i am familier with. But through instructing i learned that the gun is easier to disarm and avoid from closer distance than a knife. I always use what I consider the safest method - The front kick, and then i just grab w/e i can lay my hands on: Chair, stick, chain, table, bottle or abything that is longer than the knife or that you can throw.


aggree. unless you are caught by surprise and you have to resort to your natural reflexes and training in blocking and countering the first attack.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the gun sounds good, if you have one.

Ever think of encasing your forearms in metal guards, hidden by your shirt sleeves? An excellent defensive and offensive weapon, and your enemy will think you broke several of his bones and snapped his knife 'unarmed' I also carry a little piece of metal in one of my hands at all times, it's useful for either throwing or supplementing a hand attack. Wear heavy boots, preferably with steel tipped toes. Be armed, yet seem unarmed.

Too much for the average person? Perhaps. Yet I lived in a very violent neighbourhood when I was younger and survived dozens of streetfights, frequently involving knives and broken bottles with just these methods.

The knee kick is excellent, and not that hard to execute with a little practice. For an untrained person - if you have hard bricks or stone tiles, place them leaning against stairs so that they're roughly the height of a knee and break them with a kick. It makes okay practice, though I've never found the knee kick difficult and it IS devastating - it breaks the knee if applied from the front, dislocates it from the side - AND your body leans aways from the attacker. Would still go with metal forearm guards, though, they're a fine and unexpected defence.

If you have a child with you, toss it behind you where it won't get in the way, then go for your enemy. In most encounters, it's not the weapon, (or lack of it) but the WILL to crush your enemy that wins out. Channel your anger 'how DARE this piece of crap threaten me, I'm going to tear him apart - then do it.' I'm not saying be reckless, but a little savagery of your own doesn't hurt in a street fight - no bully wants to suddenly be confronted by a tiger (or tigress) in human form.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, I'm Tal Arath, I wrote the last post. I just thought I'd introduce myself. I'm asian, and have studied various martial arts from age three. Any comments, advice anyone can give me on my posts would be appreciated, there's always something new to be learned.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Knife defense:Run.

Knife defense for someone who wants to be a hero or cannot run: Combat back with a "weapn" that has a greater range. I put "weapon" in paranthesis becuase I do not mean a long sword or something, run to a chair, and use the chair to fend off the knife or hit the knife out of person's hand. Or perhaps grab something to use as a shield in a "ramming" motion.

Fancy jointlocks, dodges, and all of that shit are completely unreliable and I don't care what your 10th degree scam-artist of Karate says. When the average person even gets into a FIST fight they shoot up wtih adrenaline and sit there like a lone duck, when somebody pulls a knife out on you which is small and light and goes to stab you, its going to go by so fast I personally HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt you will remember your training and be able to grab the exact right spots and joints, but hey, if you want to be a hero and take one to the gut you can have a cookie. Unless your soul has been brutally trained through a war, or tons of brutal combat, you will not have the mindstate to apply such a movement.

But thats just my two cents, if you want to go with those bullshit karate instructors who claim they know how to fight (And ive seen HUNDREDS of them get destroy in seconds by MMA fighters) and get yourself stabbed, go for it.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I totally agree with dakid. Get the heck out of there, and try to grab some sort of weapon. However, if you can’t escape, create as much distance as possible between you and the knife. Here is an excellent article on knife defense. Don’t ever try any of the fancy stuff seen in the movies – it’ll only get you seriously hurt or killed.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand that most states of the USA grant permits for concealed carry. But as a resident in Australia, we Australians do not have that right. In Australia, if you carry a knife for self-defence and the cops catch you, you will also get arrested. Therefore in the US, by all means,
pull out a gun, but in Australia, we have no option but to run.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

knife defense = run. The only good knife defense instructors are the ones who aren't afraid to tell you that when knife fighting you WILL get cut. If you want to risk your life or if you have no other choice do it, but I think that I would rather go against a gunman than a knifeman.
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