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Thomas334432 Newbie
Joined: 17 Sep 2008 Posts: 1
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:31 am Post subject: Fighting a bigger man in real life. Help ASAP!! |
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Hi,
I am brand new here so I am unaware the true background of the community so bare with me. Also if there is a better forum board with my situation for self defense please feel free to share.
I am a man of 120 pounds. I have trained in Go Ju Karate for 20 years but am not currently active. Participated in tournaments and full contact and..... but as you know real life is different.
I have a situation that may be unavoidable and may have to defend myself. I have had to do this a couple of times only in my life.
The challenge is I am 5-7 120 pounds and he is 6-1 250 pounds so that within itself is a challenge.
I do know a lot of practical self defense moves which are offensive in nature. I need to make sure they work cuz if they dont. I could be in trouble.
Anybody who has been in this situation, I would really appreciate your feedback as soon as possible.
Again, I am against fighting but this may be a situation where I am truly may need to defend myself and running as fast as I can is not an option.
Thank you
If anyone would like to email me personally, I am at kingofpeace3344@yahoo.com |
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JackAubrey Registered User
Joined: 18 Sep 2005 Posts: 12
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:56 am Post subject: |
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| I would seriously reconsider what,who and where my life is located at,going or what Im doing wrong.I didn't catch your age. I am 45 years old.I used to get drunk and get into fights in my youth.I hung out with the wrong crowd in the wrong places,ect.,ect.,. I quit drinking,got a job,got married started raising a family and completely lost contact w/ all my old party friends.I am still somewhat aggressive by nature but it's of a self defense mind set as opposed to feeling the antlers of my youth.Even so, having removed myself from certain environments I can honestly say its been 19 years since I was in a fight. Without knowing all your details,could who you are hanging out with,where you are hanging out at and what you are doing be putting you at risk ? |
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angrysloth Registered User
Joined: 02 Sep 2008 Posts: 22 Location: St. Louis Missouri USA
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:51 pm Post subject: Re: Fighting a bigger man in real life. Help ASAP!! |
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| Thomas334432 wrote: | Hi,
I am brand new here so I am unaware the true background of the community so bare with me. Also if there is a better forum board with my situation for self defense please feel free to share.
I am a man of 120 pounds. I have trained in Go Ju Karate for 20 years but am not currently active. Participated in tournaments and full contact and..... but as you know real life is different.
I have a situation that may be unavoidable and may have to defend myself. I have had to do this a couple of times only in my life.
The challenge is I am 5-7 120 pounds and he is 6-1 250 pounds so that within itself is a challenge.
I do know a lot of practical self defense moves which are offensive in nature. I need to make sure they work cuz if they dont. I could be in trouble.
Anybody who has been in this situation, I would really appreciate your feedback as soon as possible.
Again, I am against fighting but this may be a situation where I am truly may need to defend myself and running as fast as I can is not an option.
Thank you
If anyone would like to email me personally, I am at kingofpeace3344@yahoo.com |
If it is unavoidable, you need to contact local law enforcement. _________________ St. Louis Self Defense Classes & Rape Prevention Training |
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Thunder1 Newbie
Joined: 30 Jun 2008 Posts: 3
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Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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Try and avoid it first. Second if you can't get law enforcement involved. Third if all else fails and it's unavoidable defend yourself. Is he a regular Joe or someone who trains with skills? If it's a regular Joe even at your size I would stick to him like glue or stay out of striking distance. No in between or mid range where he can load up with power. Use your weight to your advantage. Be light on your feet. He should run out of gas before you. Try and take his back for a submission until he gives up. If you get his back dig your hooks in and don't let go. Do not stand there and go blow for blow. I have his same dimensions and his punches will be a lot harder if he has any training. If he's used to training with heavyweights your punches won't have that much effect.
Just remember point one and two first. That would be your best plan. |
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Rick Registered User
Joined: 19 Dec 2008 Posts: 8
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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strike pre-emptively from the fence (hence my previous post )
order of the day over here for situations where you HAVE to fight, is to engage the brain with a question, then hit fast, hit first, and hit f****** hard!
we train for nothing less than a one punch KO. everything else is backup in case that fails. |
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TrustNo1 Registered User
Joined: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 5 Location: England
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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Depending on why he wants to fight you (if it is unjustified), there is a good liklihood that he is a first class pussy pyschologically as he is "wanting" to fight someone half his weight....i wonder if he would be so keen if you were his size or bigger?
So mentally you should have an advantage and if your covered mentally...the physical side follows through ...but like i say, it all depends on how and why of the situation. |
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TrustNo1 Registered User
Joined: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 5 Location: England
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, also if he is unjustified completely, then you also have an advantage because it is highly likly that his confidence will be based on you being half his size which shows his arrogance and thus ignorance of the FACT that size means nothing...it is strategies that win fights....intelligence
Remember David and Goliath for example |
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Soap Newbie
Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 4
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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| I think it's funny that people decide right now that they cannot avoid a fight with someone later. Unless you've been dealing with a loan shark, or you raped someone's daughter and they want revenge, I'm sure you can avoid the situation. |
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ultimatehlth Registered User
Joined: 06 Apr 2009 Posts: 6 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:12 am Post subject: |
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Sometimes being the bigger man means avoiding the fight. The best self-defense is always avoidance. That being said you have a right to live your life as you will and if the situation arises the element of surprise is a great equalizer even against a much bigger opponent.
The window will be short, so pick your target wisely (soft target) and strike fast, in multiplicity (relying on a one punch victory on the street is a joke) and get the f... out.
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cprosper Newbie
Joined: 01 Jul 2009 Posts: 1 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:11 am Post subject: Fighting A Bigger Man |
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The first and foremost posture is your mindset and your approach. By the name of your question and concern, it is apparent that you are looking at the bulk of the opponent instead of seeing the penetrable targets of every man no matter how big they are.
Let me give you a few basics of the reality-based mind-set:
1. You must have situational awareness. This means how close is he on you, and is he exhibiting the signs that he is about to strike you:
a. He is gritting his teeth.
b. His fists are clenched.
c. His breathing has quickened.
d. His eyes suddenly widen or close
These are sure signs that he is readying himself to strike you.
2. You must watch his invasion of your personal space. This means that if all or some of the above signs are shown and you couple this with him moving in to your personal space, it is time for you to go to the next step.
3. You must STRIKE FIRST, and it MUST be in a vital and devastating area. Now before I tell you where you must strike, I need to tell you that you must execute a little psychological street savvy. You raise your hands up in a sort of defensive surrender position as you say "Look, I don't want any trouble..." when Bam! You execute a surprise preemptive strike in mid sentence with:
a. A finger jab to the eyes.
b. A punch to the throat. (The fight is really over at this point because you have left him coughing and grabbing his throat; fighting you at this point has left his mind. He is only worried about being able to breathe.)
c. A shin kick which quickly lifts up and into the center of the groin which will strike into the Y of his stance, literally crushing upward the "family jewels" (This is a close-quarters and little known first-strike kick.)
I don't care how "BIG" the guy is. He doesn't have any muscles in his eyes, throat or testicles.
4. Now, here is the key where most traditionally trained martial artists fail. Listen carefully - Once you make the first, surprise and debilitating first strike - DON'T STOP STRIKING ! You continue to mercilessly attack even other vital area that is open to you. Side stomp the knee. This is a vertical 45º angle stomp that will probably break the knee cap. Elbow to the chin. Grab him on the sides of his ear and BITE his cheeks. Bite his nose, lip and anything else you can get. I even go into a pseudo-psychosis. I will even "growl" in his ear as I bite him. I don't care how big and bad he may have started, if you take this aggressively non-stop attack approach - you totally freak him out, and neutralize the threat in very short order which means that you will leave him incapacitated or unconscious.
As one of my teachers, Norm Bettencourt, likes to tell me "There is no such thing as a dirty fighter - only an educated one."
Train smart and watch your back,
Respectfully,
Charles Prosper
"The Street Fighting Sifu" _________________ Charles Prosper aka "The Street Fighting Sifu" http://www.RealStreetFightingMoves.com |
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Clugston Newbie
Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Posts: 2 Location: BKK
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:39 am Post subject: Got to Think |
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Funny a lot of people not dealing with the reality of the fight. Too many meta thinkers giving advice and not answers.
Also, again, seems to be a very USA mindset here--which is not the only one in the world.
Reading an answer (if yuou can ferret one out of the relplies) is not going to help you.
Physical movement is learned through phsyical movement not passive reading.
You need to go to someone who has ACTUALLY fought larger men and been successful. Aftgerall, would you go to a failed deoctor to learn a surgical tgechnique?
That being said, free advice is rarely worth anything.
So, I point you towards a professional--you're not going to learn anything from amateurs who jsut babble.
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Blowjob Lessons Registered User

Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 347 Location: Coquitlam
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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This is a CHAT FORUM. No one here is going to be able to give the questioner anything more than text. No one here is going to be able to teach him how to fight multiple opponents. Not me, not you, not anyone. It's kind of ironic: Your post, by proclaiming the uselessness of "just reading", undermines itself. (After all, we're "only" able to read it--it's not real training.)
Clugston, your stuff is good, but you're being an ass, and you're also spamming.
I trust your posts will be deleted soon enough.  _________________ blowjoblessons@gmail.com
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Protechtion Newbie
Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 2 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:34 am Post subject: Knowing is half the battle |
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I understand it has been a while since you posted this; I hope any situation that has arisen turned out ok. Regardless, I still think this is a good topic for discussion.
Many of you are saying nothing can be learned by reading... why are you on the forum? There is no substitute for training, but every little bit helps when someone fears for their life.
From my years of experience in self-defense, here are some key pointers on this particular subject:
1) Avoidance is best 99% of the time. You have an advantage knowing he wants a fight. Avoid him.
2) If you can't avoid him, you still know he wants a fight. Attack first.
3) No matter how much bigger he is, his balls are (roughly) the same size, and in the same location. Raise your hands slowly like you don't want trouble--this will attract his attention--then high-knee rising kick to the crotch.
4) Don't wait to see what happens. Follow up with whatever you know until you feel safe, and get out of there.
5) Use a weapon if possible (a rock, a pool cue...). Even with trained knuckles, anything else is better. And don't brandish the weapon: If it's good enough to show, it's good enough to use. There are tons of non-lethal weapons out there that can help keep you safe.
Good luck to anyone in this situation. Remember, in a life-threatening situation, the most important thing is to never quit. Do what is necessary to get safe. _________________ Protechtion
Seattle, WA
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jetdollete Newbie
Joined: 01 Mar 2010 Posts: 2
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:20 am Post subject: Self Defense Weapons: Stay Cautious and Be Prepared For Atta |
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Just to be safe and prepared, always bring self defense weapons that are not so burden to carry. So little that you hardly know that it is there until you need it.
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Tuco Registered User
Joined: 30 Mar 2010 Posts: 59
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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:31 am Post subject: |
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Avoid by all means possible. But if it comes down to it, attack and keep on attacking until he is incapacitated or he retreats or gives up. Go for the weak areas such as the eyes, throat, nose, groin, knees, shins, etc. Don't waste time in a strength contest or going toe to toe. Or you will lose. Avoid the ground since it is very vulnerable, the street is no cage and there are so many variables. it would also help to carry less than lethal weapons such as OC, baton, etc. Make sure to check your state's laws. Be also familiar with the use of improvised weapons such as bricks, bottles, pens, etc. Again, never turn your back from him and watch your 360. _________________ "Everyone has a plan until he gets punched in the mouth"-Mike Tyson |
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