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Thunder1 · Newbie Joined: 30 Jun 2008 Posts: 3

First time poster and here's the deal. My fiances 24yr old son moved in with us a year ago for about a month. Every week he partied and got drunk. One night he called his mom to pick him up at a bar. When he got home he decided he was going to drive compelety drunk. His mom woke me up and asked me to help stop him. I stood behind his vehicle, he got out and blasted me in the face twice. I stood there and stared at him and called the cops at the same time. He was arrested on domestic battery, plead guilty and just got off a year of pre-trial intervention to include anger management and AA. I agreed to the PTI because I thought the kid had some problems and I wanted to see him get help. (history of alcohol abuse) I have a history in boxing and some BJJ, 6'1" 250lb. It took a lot for me to get over being hit in the face without knocking him out. Well I did now he's drinking and starting crap again. He showed up at our business three weeks ago and got into it with one of best employees over nothing. I told him to leave then he started in on me again. Verbally assaulting me in front of customers. He also said he wants to fight me sober now. I said we didn't fight last time you hit me in the head as hard as you could twice and I stared at you, didn't that teach you something. Then he ranted on and on with every cuss word in the book in front my employees and customers before he left. Before you ask my fiance is done with him and stated I will never ask you to be around him again ever. For the last year I tolerated him at family functions and get togethers for the benefit of their family. Thats over now! We will run into each other our town is small. He will never raise a hand to me again and I've had it with his mouth too. If he even puts his hand on me and I react is it considered self defense and do I have to make absolute sure he touches me first? I won't have any weapons involved it will be all hands.

angrysloth

Thunder1 · Newbie Joined: 30 Jun 2008 Posts: 3

Hey thanks for the great advice. Your spot on. Every reason you mentioned is why I stood there and looked at him after the first attack. It doesn't really matter but I think more than admiration most of my friends and family were more in disbelief that I responded by doing nothing. I have a bad history of never walking away from a fight. After the last one years ago I promised myself I would never put myself in that situation again. The only time I would fight would be for REAL self defense. I've lived up to my promise. This jerk knows of my past and I think likes to try and bring it out of me. Anyways your 100% correct. Thanks

JackAubrey · Registered User Joined: 18 Sep 2005 Posts: 12

Well,Thunder,I was going to disagree w/ Mr.Angry Sloth,but since you agree with him so be it.The problem I see in dealing a good beating to this punk is he doesn't learn.He hit you twice.In his pea little mind he doesn't recognize your restraint.Think like a churl,a criminal.In his twisted mind, you showed weakness.Now, everyone else knows you showed restraint,not this pin head.Should you beat him he will slink off with his wounded "pride" to lick his wounds.After a few drinks he will come to the BRILLIANT conclusion that he's gonna show you...and he shows up with a gun. So you probably did do the right thing.If I were in your position,I would seriously rethink marrying into that family.Kin are funny sometimes.I personally think there are too many fish in the sea to have to watch over my back for the rest of my life.Of course,from what I have seen of Floridians this is not too uncommon.Best regards,J.A.

angrysloth · Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:47 pm Post subject:

angrysloth · Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:48 pm Post subject:

JackAubrey · Registered User Joined: 18 Sep 2005 Posts: 12

Mr.Angry Sloth, I apologize if I offended you,that was not my intention in the least.The only points I felt a tinge of disagreement with you on was the first cowardice point.Imho,defending oneself from a physical assault is never cowardice.It's not Mr.Thunder1's fault that this dim wit chose to "poke at the bear with a stick". Now,If Mr.Thunder beat him into a coma after the threat was removed then there could be some legal ramifications,but honestly,I have great difficulty feeling sympathy or anything for a criminal.I am not trying to imply that you do. Is the creep miserable,I doubt it.From what I've experienced w/ this sort , they are so egocentric they feel fully justified in anything they do, no matter what law they break or who they hurt.In this scumbags' mind,not only was HE justified,but Mr.Thunder DESERVED it and the mean ol' cop that arrested him was picking on him and that judge was off his rocker.Was it good that Mr.Thunder showed restraint? Sure it was.And I don't disagree with you in anything save this one minor point.Best regards,J.A.

angrysloth · Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:22 pm Post subject:

stonewall50 · Newbie Joined: 13 Apr 2009 Posts: 3

By law in the state of Florida(I am a resident as well), if you feel your life is threatened you can take his life. Now as for what would be morally correct? If he is threatening you and he lays a hand on you, you can react but be careful about the force you use. If a guy takes a swing at me and I know how to disable him I would try that first. But resorting to taking swings is your last step. If he pushes and pushes and gives you no other option but to defend yourself then you can drop him and hold him till the police arrive. The only issue is that you would want witnesses and make sure that you get to the cops before he does. If he reports it its gonna be his story and they wil slap the cuffs on you. But your best bet would be to not react until you have to defend yourself. If he he hits you and you dont feel it necessary to actually defend yourself(he isnt dealing damage) then you can let he cops handle it.
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