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Gigi666 · Newbie Joined: 19 Sep 2007 Posts: 1

I would like to start taking self defence classes, however i'm not quite certain but to begin with. From what I heard, Krav Maga is of the best form of self defence. Could you guys confirm this?

Blowjob Lessons · Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:19 pm Post subject:

Krav maga can be one of the good ones because it's street-oriented and covers the various ranges (weapons, ground, stand-up, clinch). However, the quality of training is sometimes pretty iffy, and it tends to be very commercial and expensive. Other alternatives you could consider are JKD Concepts, Blauer Tactical, Straight Blast Gym, Impact/Model Mugging (they've come a long way, especially if you deal with organizations like Dr. Ruthless's) and look for places that do MMA (mixed martial arts) and ask if they have self-defence classes as well.

You can do some study on your own as well: "The Gift of Fear" by Gavin DeBecker, "Strong On Defense" by Sanford Strong, and "Cerebral Self-Defence: The Mental Edge" by Tony Blauer, are the three resources I recommend the most. On Youtube, a guy called streetfightsecrets has some good demos.
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vietdao · Registered User Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 14

I'm going to tell you that it's not only about the style, it's about the school and the teacher. The style is only important if there is a certain type you are comfortable with. Aside from that, it's about the school and the teacher.

Look at the students, Are they good at what they do? Is their sparring and teaching up to par? Are the students in good shape? These are all sign of whether or not the school may or may not be any good. If the students are no good and the teacher is crappy the style means nothing. So focus on finding a school that has a good reputation rather than the style.

avdrummerboy · Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:34 am Post subject:

On YouTube there are lots of self-defense guys, streetfightsecrets, chosenninja, taihoca, etc.
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blackrock · Registered User Joined: 30 Dec 2007 Posts: 5

The best self defense is not getting into problems in the first place.

If you are talking about styles and you had to choose one I would say krav maga. It's the most realistic and deals with weapons, grappling and striking. Others you would need to combine different styles to get complete training and most of them don't deal with close combat weapons.
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sjohnsoncqb · Registered User Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Posts: 26

I absolutely agree that Tony Blauer, Sanford Strong, and Gavin DeBecker are three EXCELLENT resources to consider when studying self defense.

I also find the self-defense material from Jim Grover (aka Kelly McCann) to be fantastic as well.

Krav Maga is better than a lot of other sport-centric martial arts, but it still is not as reality based as it could be.

Some of the best training I've received is working out with friends. Someone plays a good guy, someone plays a bad guy, and you run through drills and techniques figuring out what works and what doesn't. I started doing this years ago, but Tony Blauer and his Panic Attack drills has made a science out of it.

Do your research and decide what works best for you. Good luck!
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blackrock · Registered User Joined: 30 Dec 2007 Posts: 5

I agree that Tony Blauer's techniques are really good. I've posted some of his videos on my self defense blog. Check them out if you want. Tony Blauer Videos His system makes a lot of sense. I think that a combination of realistic street training and sport martial arts like Muy Thai and JuJitsu or Wrestling are good to include in the training. If you have to choose one I would go with Krav Maga.
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Blowjob Lessons · Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:23 am Post subject:

One thing that does need to be said... Blauer has a ton of vids and they tend to be pretty repetitive after awhile. Some of his early ones are less RBSD and more martial-arty. Some of his newer ones are kind of too abstract and theoretical and picking stuff apart. He had a "golden age" during which he produced "Science of the Sucker Punch" "How to Beat a Grappler" "Controlling the Blade" "Range Rover" "Inside the Groundfight", and a few other gems. And RapeSafe, though it has good content, has a notoriously annoying white noise thing at the beginning of the first volume. The guy really doesn't pay attention to video production. He seriously believes that his information should speak for itself, and quality of his final product shouldn't matter.

In the same way, Cerebral Self-Defence is his best audio, and the two others are less interesting and largely redundant.
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sjohnsoncqb · Registered User Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Posts: 26

This is true. I have just about all the VHS tapes you mentioned, and I have the cassette tape of "Cerebral Self Defense." I want to get the RapeDefense one because I heard it's full of good stuff.

But for all its faults, it has some good stuff. I think the SPEAR system is sound and would like to train a little more in it.

I also like a lot of the stuff from Jim Grover/Kelly McCann.
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kfcfan · Registered User Joined: 25 Jan 2008 Posts: 25

The best form of self defense is to not need to use self defense. In most cases it is possible to avoid confrontation. YOu just need to stay away from shady parts of town and bad areas in general.
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sjohnsoncqb · Registered User Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Posts: 26

That is the best form of self defense, but it's just one in many layers:

1. Awareness/avoidance
2. Escape/evasion
3. De-escalation
4. Engagement

Phase 4 is where you need the most realistic training possible in case the first three phases don't work.
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mark stephens · Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 5:39 pm Post subject: self defence

I think the best self defence training i ever did was a course done by Linford Christie.
His advice was run like f**k
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HocusPocus · Newbie Joined: 11 Aug 2008 Posts: 2 Location: Torrance CA

There is a "system" out there called Target Focus Training. It's founder is Tim Larkin.

At this time, it is the only one I would recommend. The others recommended here I don't know enough of to say.

On the other hand, I will say this. The best "systems" will teach you street fighting, and the information you will learn will be the down and dirty of how to really hurt and damage the attacker.

Most, and I mean most, instructors are too squeamish to teach that kind of thing, if even they know of it themselves. Because traditional karate, kung fu, and the like are more about keeping alive a tradition, and wearing spifffy uniforms and such, chances are they will be leary of the down and dirty realism of self-defense.

I got my first degree blackbelt in Kenpo back in 1986, and that squeamishness is one of the things that has urked me about the martial arts industry for over twenty years. It has led me to believe that many practitioners are about looking spiffy for mommy, wife, or girlfriend, and not about really knowing or practicing self-defense, which is what it's all about anyhow. "After all, it's all about how to cut down a man," as Murosashi said.

I came to this conclusion many years ago. The best defense is to hurt your attacker, immediately. No fancy fisticuffs, no blocking and all that bs. Just step in and hurt him, take him out of the fight. It's not fancy, it's not pretty.

And it doesn't take a blackbelt to learn that. Whatever system will teach you that, is the one to go with.

Just as an aside...

I moved here to LA in 1990. One of the things that I thought I wanted to do at the time was become an actor. I auditioned couple of times for a show called The Power Rangers. On the last audition, they wanted me to be one of the bad-guys in the grey suits. They asked me to "do something" for the camera. I immediately began to show them a takedown with a neck break. It wasn't fancy, but it was real. They didn't like it, and I didn't get the job. They wanted high kicks and all that malarky.

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